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***Beth***
05-22-2011, 05:45 AM
Want others to give an opinion on the sex of your T???? Don't have a molt yet? POST HERE!

You will need a good CLEAR picture of the underside of your T. The area we need to look at is between the top set of booklungs. The clearer and close up the pic, the easier it will be for us to give an accurate guess. Please note, the only way to be POSITIVE is to see if their molted skin has spermithicae which would indicate a female.

It is hard on some species to give an accurate guess and the younger/smaller the harder it will be.

Male OBT
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Female P. Irminia
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Tgirl1010
05-31-2011, 08:16 PM
B smithi 2" to 2-1/2" (not good at guessing size). Picture is taken through plastic kritter keeper so it's as clear as I could get it.

Scoolman
05-31-2011, 10:25 PM
OBT and smithi--I see female.

***Beth***
05-31-2011, 10:26 PM
Smithi I say girl

venomous
06-01-2011, 02:17 AM
Smithi id say female....

Tho OBT looks female to me

Tgirl1010
06-01-2011, 06:45 AM
is you notice, above the OBT, it says "male obt" lol

venomous
06-01-2011, 01:32 PM
Yeah I seen it said male but it looks female to me

Tgirl1010
06-01-2011, 01:57 PM
Yeah I seen it said male but it looks female to me

I agree, if I was asked, I would have said female too. Oh well, can't always be right lol

venomous
06-01-2011, 02:04 PM
yeah im still learning myself, and the P irminia looks male to me aswell lol

ManlyMan7
06-01-2011, 02:51 PM
B. emilia
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C. cyanopubescens (GBB)
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venomous
06-01-2011, 02:55 PM
both look female to me

ManlyMan7
06-01-2011, 03:09 PM
both look female to me

I have heard that before (on the old forum), but am also interested in knowing what makes you say female, as I am trying to get the hang of this myself. What are the indicators you are basing your call on?

venomous
06-01-2011, 03:26 PM
i look for a smile "female" and frown "male"
distance between the book lungs and the hair between them
i am no expert on ventral sexing and still trying to learn myself

Valarya
06-02-2011, 10:25 AM
That B. Emilia is definitely female. I can't tell with the GBB. It's too furry, hahah.

In regards to Beth's OP-- I think OBTs are one of the hardest to ventrally sex. -_-

Serge
06-02-2011, 12:18 PM
^^^ your sig is amazing valarya, just sayin ;d

OBT - i think i see the "male dot" but also looks a bit female due to the shadows possibly? Got another pic?

Emilia + GBB - i say female

Valarya
06-02-2011, 12:22 PM
^^^ your sig is amazing valarya, just sayin ;d

OBT - i think i see the "male dot" but also looks a bit female due to the shadows possibly? Got another pic?

Emilia + GBB - i say female

I knew you'd like it based on your avatar. :P I just wore my JD shirt a couple days ago so it was on the brain!

Btw, the OBT is definitely MALE. Beth was trying to post 1 female and 1 male to start the thread out, I think. Lol ;D

ManlyMan7
06-06-2011, 04:04 AM
This is of a MM LP. But for those of us who are still trying to get the hang of this, could others please point out what indicators they see here that show this to be a male?

Thanks.
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ManlyMan7
06-10-2011, 02:41 PM
Here is a shot of my B. vagans (given to me last night). I would guess it is about 2 inches.
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I would guess male as I THINK I see the start of that "dot" on the upper lip of the furrow and there really isn't much hair there. I am still quite a novis at this, so any pointers would so appreciated.

Thanks.

Valarya
06-10-2011, 03:39 PM
At this point I wouldn't even hazard a ventral-guess at something so small unless it were a Pokie (Poecilotheria are actually easier to sex ventrally when they're small).

Molt would be the way to tell. Sorry, lol. Maybe someone else will.

ManlyMan7
06-14-2011, 12:00 AM
At this point I wouldn't even hazard a ventral-guess at something so small unless it were a Pokie (Poecilotheria are actually easier to sex ventrally when they're small).

Molt would be the way to tell. Sorry, lol. Maybe someone else will.

No biggy. I'm sure it will molt before long.

To revisit my b. emilia (posted above), it did molt on Saturday and is infact a female!
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BayLee
06-19-2011, 03:41 AM
ManyMan, at that size you should be able to tell when you have an exuvia. I was able to sex mine, she was very small and showed already her spermatheca.
I have to agree with Val, I think if you try to ventral sex her/him at this size it would be a wild guess.

Pixiestix4e
06-21-2011, 09:33 AM
i dont really like to trust ventral sexing.. id rather go with knowing for 100% sure via molts...but... what ya guys think? ^.^
shes an aphonopelma new river, about 4" and a sweet heart...obviously... letting me hold her like that... lol

Valarya
06-21-2011, 09:59 AM
Looks female to me, Pixie

Pixiestix4e
06-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Sweet! Tahnks Val ^.^

zumbul91
07-04-2011, 01:27 PM
Heteroscodra maculata

http://i55.tinypic.com/qwynm9.jpg

kylestl
07-07-2011, 04:47 PM
P. lugardi

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/kylestlcards/100_6557.jpg

Pixiestix4e
07-07-2011, 05:42 PM
Hims or hers? Lol

Valarya
07-07-2011, 06:31 PM
@Pixie:

Picture 1 = MALE
Picture 2 = I can't tell. Can you get a clearer, better lit pic?

kylestl
07-07-2011, 07:23 PM
@Pixie:

Picture 1 = MALE
Picture 2 = I can't tell. Can you get a clearer, better lit pic?

Do you have a guess to what mines is? Thanks!

***Beth***
07-07-2011, 07:52 PM
Kyle= girl!
Pixie = looks male for both

Valarya
07-07-2011, 08:32 PM
Do you have a guess to what mines is? Thanks!

Oops, sorry! +1 to what Beth said, Kyle: GIRL :)

Pixiestix4e
07-08-2011, 10:00 AM
i hope you guys are both wrong >.< lol the first pic (darker one) was sold to me as a "female Thai Tiger" ...whatever Thai Tiger means... lol im learning there are 2093810982 different things labeled as thai tiger... lol and the 2nd one is one of Erics favs :( which just molted but the abdomen was ripped where i needed to look... booooo

J!m
07-26-2011, 09:44 PM
I am definitely not the best person on this Forum at ventral sexing my T's. Sooooooooooo, I need your help. This is my Lampropelma violaceopes. It's about 3" to 4" now.

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Be kind and think female.

Valarya
07-26-2011, 10:03 PM
I can't be kind and think female, sorry. :(

Looks male to me.

Tgirl1010
07-26-2011, 10:05 PM
I'm thinking male.

***Beth***
07-26-2011, 10:16 PM
Sorry J!m, male. It's got the male 'dot' above the furrow and the booklungs are too close together for a female.

J!m
07-26-2011, 10:57 PM
Sorry J!m, male. It's got the male 'dot' above the furrow and the booklungs are too close together for a female.

And to think, I used to like you Beth.:(



Kidding!!!:surrender:

J!m
07-26-2011, 11:05 PM
I'm thinkin' male.

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There Beth, are you happy??? LOL

***Beth***
07-26-2011, 11:27 PM
Umm Jim.. Looks like a mature male, those palps look like they have emboli showing, see how it's fatter and reddish...? 100% positvely male.. can't get ANY maler than that...

J!m
07-26-2011, 11:32 PM
Umm Jim.. Looks like a mature male, those palps look like they have emboli showing, see how it's fatter and reddish...?

That's what I thought. I appreciate it Beth. I was really hoping for female on the Lampropelma violaceopes but it is what it is huh?

***Beth***
07-26-2011, 11:38 PM
True but ya can't be 100% WITHOUT emboli or spermithicae showing. Glad to help out :)

Pixiestix4e
08-01-2011, 10:12 AM
i already know what the sex is! just wanted to give a little test for anyone learning or wanting to take a guess ^.^

Valarya
08-01-2011, 10:30 AM
Grats, Pix :D

Pixiestix4e
08-01-2011, 10:32 AM
awh! Val!!! you totes gave it away!!! lol no fair no fair!!! heehee ^.^ im so excited i finally got a girl!!!

Valarya
08-01-2011, 10:42 AM
i <3 that you say words like 'totes' and 'gub' now. this makes for happy val, hahah. also: SORRY! I didnt know I wasn't sposed to say anything.

:(

ManlyMan7
08-01-2011, 11:56 AM
What's the species anyway?

touchthesky
08-01-2011, 01:16 PM
I'd love to know what sex my sling is, but as its only:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281319_10150727922960109_887575108_19834735_766780 9_n.jpg

this big, I guess I'll have to wait.

JumpSpidersInc
08-01-2011, 03:56 PM
touchthesky, is your sling a Curly-hair?

JSI

touchthesky
08-01-2011, 06:10 PM
No it's a Pulchripes. A very, very hungry Pulchripes!

Pixiestix4e
08-03-2011, 09:10 PM
Manly, mine was a chaco :)
Ok... now for this little gub :) anyone wana guess? Or is she still to tiny? Val, maybe this pic is bigger in here?

Ischnocolus
08-03-2011, 09:15 PM
Manly, mine was a chaco :)
Ok... now for this little gub :) anyone wana guess? Or is she still to tiny? Val, maybe this pic is bigger in here?

If I had to guess, i would say a young female Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens...

Pixiestix4e
08-03-2011, 09:17 PM
Or what about my pulchra? Lol
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kylestl
08-12-2011, 01:44 AM
Help, b emilia I am considering trading for?

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/Ralph_Moore84/B%20Emilia/SAM_0099.jpg

Shar Howe
08-14-2011, 01:15 AM
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I hope this works (I'm sending it from my phone)...my chaco golden girl (pretty sure Big Mama's a lady!) has a blister on her lady-parts. Any ideas? She's had it for a while, and I noticed it before, the last time she shed, she was on her back. And I was snapoing pics, that"s how I found it. Is this a pre-moult thing? If so, I've never heard of it before.
(And if this pic doesn't show, I'll go send it from the computer...bear with me). ;)

ManlyMan7
08-14-2011, 01:36 AM
That is a beautifully big mamma! I would think size and bulk alone point strongly to a female in this case.

Is she missing a fang?

Shar Howe
08-14-2011, 01:44 AM
No, she was just puckering up for smooches. :P
But that pink and black thing on her belly has got me worried.

Shar Howe
08-14-2011, 01:51 AM
Ok...I just checked, AGAIN, and yeah, all mouthparts are accounted for! So's the blister-thing, but other than that she's perfect.
;)

touchthesky
08-14-2011, 09:00 AM
All the better to eat you with :D

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/295513_10150745259360109_887575108_20060514_103737 _n.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294628_10150745259495109_887575108_20060517_825147 8_n.jpg

Btw I don't support PETA..I just love sheep..and the snake one seemed relevant for Hooker :P

Scoolman
08-14-2011, 04:57 PM
Or what about my pulchra? LolPic is a little fuzzy but looks female, pixie. :)


Help, b emilia I am considering trading for?Too close for me, but I would say female, kyle. :)




All the better to eat you with :D
Btw I don't support PETA..I just love sheep..and the snake one seemed relevant for Hooker :PNot sure of you were asking but she is female for sure. :)

pro-crastinator
09-26-2011, 09:01 PM
Here is my A. avic. approx 5+ inches.

***Beth***
09-26-2011, 09:16 PM
It's a girl~!

pro-crastinator
09-26-2011, 11:06 PM
15889And here is one of my G. roseas. It is about 4+ inches.

***Beth***
09-26-2011, 11:11 PM
Can you get a couple more pics? Just a couple to see if i'm seeing glare or actual hair... I know what I'm thinking but want to verify before saying...

pro-crastinator
09-26-2011, 11:12 PM
Ill try. The glare is awful in this enclosure.

***Beth***
09-26-2011, 11:19 PM
Nevermind, that rosea is definately a male.

JumpSpidersInc
09-26-2011, 11:35 PM
I agree with Beth...

Here is a (bad) pic of my female....

http://www.tarantulasus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12314&d=1311409599

JSI

pro-crastinator
09-27-2011, 12:08 AM
Here are two more shots from different angles. What are you looking at that gives it away as a male?
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DansDragons
09-27-2011, 12:31 AM
thats a girl, no question.

with male rosea, the "dot" is clearly visable and their epyginal plate is more squared and narrow.

JumpSpidersInc
09-27-2011, 12:37 AM
The pic in post #62 is a female????

JSI

DansDragons
09-27-2011, 12:40 AM
yep!

DansDragons
09-27-2011, 12:44 AM
here's a very rough drawing of the difference between furrow shapes in male and female rosies

JumpSpidersInc
09-27-2011, 12:50 AM
This was my 20th ID and first time I was wrong... :TShock:

....and I learned from you and Scoolman! **dies of embarassment**

WOW, pro-crastinator will be sooooo pleased to know this!

Even looking at the one pic, and comparing with mine, it looks very different... my rosea molted from sa to mf in March this year. Thanks, Dan!!!!!

JSI

DansDragons
09-27-2011, 04:10 AM
i think they both look the same, just yours is more developed. look at the shapes of the furrow on his and yours, same shape, no dark spot in the middle.

Tgirl1010
09-27-2011, 07:04 AM
Post #53 looks male to me...what say you Dan? (I'm trying to learn)

DansDragons
09-27-2011, 07:29 AM
looks like you're getting good at this ;)

pro-crastinator
09-27-2011, 07:51 AM
Awesome I hope so!! I was thinking (hoping) girl myself. You cant see it in the pics but one side of the furrow is much taller than the other. Id say about 3/16" taller like she is swollen. Maybe a premolt thing. She hasnt molt since New Years week 2010. My other rosea hasnt molt in an even longer time and it is smaller. Cant wait for the next molts to see for sure an both of them. Thanks everyone!!

***Beth***
09-27-2011, 11:12 AM
The first pic pro posted I was sure I saw something that was just a glare. Other pics don't have it so yes Dan is completely right, girl. I always prefer a couple pics ...

pro-crastinator
09-27-2011, 04:23 PM
Yippee!! Thanks Beth. Ya, the glare from that enclosure is really bad. Its not acrylic, I think it is polystyrene. I had to take her out and put her in a small acrylic enclosure to get the pics. I'll have to get a pic of the other large Rosea that I have, but it NEVER climbs the walls and is very skittish. Thank you all!! I need to find a name for the confirmed female now.....

pro-crastinator
09-28-2011, 11:05 PM
Here is my 2" Phlogiellus Baeri. I think it is a male and possibly mature. Its hard to see his palps and they do not have hooks so... What are your thoughts?

Tgirl1010
09-28-2011, 11:06 PM
I think male Pro.

JumpSpidersInc
09-28-2011, 11:09 PM
Now THAT is a male.

JSI

pro-crastinator
09-29-2011, 12:26 AM
Here are several palp pics of my 2" Phlogiellus baeri male. Its hard to see with the naked eye but with the camera it looks to me as if he is mature. The red areas on the end of his palps, is that his sperm sac? I never noticed him make a web of any kind. Tried to get as many good angles as possible to show the red sacs and size of palps. Whatcha think?

Scoolman
09-29-2011, 12:34 AM
Def male.

JumpSpidersInc
09-29-2011, 12:36 AM
Yep, without a doubt, it's a male! Not sure if the palps are loaded, tho... plus you never saw him make a sperm web? These are really good pics!

Others will chime in with more details... my "expertise" (lol) is with Trues.

(with most trues, you can ID one as male long before it is a MM)

JSI

Tgirl1010
09-29-2011, 07:08 AM
Yep, he's a MM.

DansDragons
09-29-2011, 07:30 AM
^ what they said :)

FaaFaa
10-11-2011, 05:35 PM
This is so frustrating! :TBrick: Is there a ventral sexing for dummies book out there? Everytime I take a look at these pics and then guess it's ALWAYS wrong! They all look the same to me.

DansDragons
10-11-2011, 05:40 PM
check out this link, it's translated from russian so it may be a bit hard to read, but it was helpful to me when i first started. http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/en/node/586

JumpSpidersInc
10-11-2011, 05:49 PM
Awesome, Dan!!!!! I lost that bookmark when my last PC got fried... :(

I found this to be extremely helpful as well. thank you! :)

JSI

FaaFaa
10-11-2011, 07:27 PM
Thank you Dan! Here's my LP. LS is 3 inches, is that too small to tell? The pics aren't the best either....

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/Ziggy/100_3375.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/Ziggy/100_3376.jpg

DansDragons
10-11-2011, 07:31 PM
it's looking very girly, but honestly i'd give it a molt or 2 before anyone tries to sex it. since they are a larger species, even at 3" they are still under developed.

FaaFaa
10-11-2011, 07:37 PM
I kinda figured that it was a shot in the dark. I was thinking possible female from the last molt, but the T is still kinda small. I'm super impatient I have been waiting for another molt for 2 months now! LOL Thanks for taking a stab at it Dan!

crazylegs
10-13-2011, 04:39 PM
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crazylegs
10-13-2011, 04:40 PM
P.regalis above

newspidermom
10-13-2011, 05:15 PM
Male

FaaFaa
10-13-2011, 06:30 PM
Male

Not arguing here, but why? I'm trying to learn how to do this and I thought it was female.... what makes you say male? I'm so lost when it comes to this!

newspidermom
10-13-2011, 06:53 PM
Others may disagree with me but from what I see...that curved line right below the upper booklungs has no furrow. Meaning that it is a tight closed line with no signs of gapping in the middle. Females have more of a slight pocket shape in that area. Some species are more pronounced than others so that can also make it difficult. What I can't tell from your pic is the size of the T in question so a very young female may look male. If it's still pretty small it's really hard to tell the difference and a visual determination is really hard because thay will look similar until they get bigger. Examining the molt is the best way by far. Do you know how to sex them using a molt?

Tgirl1010
10-13-2011, 07:54 PM
Male on the regalis

DansDragons
10-13-2011, 09:15 PM
Others may disagree with me but from what I see...that curved line right below the upper booklungs has no furrow. Meaning that it is a tight closed line with no signs of gapping in the middle. Females have more of a slight pocket shape in that area. Some species are more pronounced than others so that can also make it difficult. What I can't tell from your pic is the size of the T in question so a very young female may look male. If it's still pretty small it's really hard to tell the difference and a visual determination is really hard because thay will look similar until they get bigger. Examining the molt is the best way by far. Do you know how to sex them using a molt?

with many species you wont see the "pocket" or "lip" until they develope more. thats why sexing pokies is a little more difficult than others. this one needs another molt for ANYONE to be 100% sure.

i really want to say female, i see nothing evident of male except maybe a small spot in the middle of the furrow line, but as i said, needs at least one more molt.

FaaFaa
10-14-2011, 08:18 AM
Others may disagree with me but from what I see...that curved line right below the upper booklungs has no furrow. Meaning that it is a tight closed line with no signs of gapping in the middle. Females have more of a slight pocket shape in that area. Some species are more pronounced than others so that can also make it difficult. What I can't tell from your pic is the size of the T in question so a very young female may look male. If it's still pretty small it's really hard to tell the difference and a visual determination is really hard because thay will look similar until they get bigger. Examining the molt is the best way by far. Do you know how to sex them using a molt?

I know that someday I will have this all figured out. It just looked like a "smiley face" and I thought that meant female. There seems to be so many other things that you need to look for also. UGH I will get this! I can sex by a molt, as long as they are big enough that seems easy compared to this!

JOHN
10-31-2011, 07:44 PM
Acanthoscurria geniculata 3''

DansDragons
10-31-2011, 07:45 PM
thats a male.

JOHN
10-31-2011, 07:50 PM
thanks dan ..

santac
11-02-2011, 12:13 PM
This is a ventral pic. not too clear but have to give it a shot. This is my other 2 inch G. rosea.

santac
11-02-2011, 12:25 PM
John, that is definately a male. I can clearly see the epiandous fusillae which is the darker brown triangle above the epigastric furrow where the silk for the sperm web comes from. This article may help you in the future. http://www.birdspiders.com/faq_sex.php

DansDragons
11-02-2011, 01:59 PM
santac, female rosea.

santac
11-02-2011, 02:39 PM
For me the pic isn't clear enough so I'm delighted and sure hope your right. My other I believe is a male. I won't breed them but will be very happy to have both sexes. I understand the male turns brighter colored and the advantage of the female is longevity. Wahoooo

J!m
12-03-2011, 08:44 PM
OBT - Male right?

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santac
12-04-2011, 08:11 AM
I'm going to agree with you J!m though I am far from being an expert on ventral sexing. Nice colors. How big is he?

J!m
12-04-2011, 08:41 AM
Thanks santac. I'd say he's around 4".

FaaFaa
12-04-2011, 10:07 AM
I don't know if these pics are good enough, but what do you guys see? This is Yinzer my 3" curly hair. I think I see boy, but I really, really suck at this so I am hoping that I am wrong!

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/Yinzer/PICT1183.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/Yinzer/PICT1174.jpg

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/Yinzer/PICT1173.jpg

DansDragons
12-04-2011, 09:31 PM
female :)

FaaFaa
12-05-2011, 08:10 AM
female :)

Seriously!?! :TBounce: See, I so suck at this! I need to get pics of the rest of my unsexed Ts up here. Thank you Dan! :TBounce:

Pixiestix4e
12-05-2011, 09:51 AM
Dan, does the white fur mean female?

cavelle
12-05-2011, 11:33 PM
This pic may not be clear enough, also, Tweak, my A. versi, is really young here (21 to 24 months I estimate), but can anyone tell, male or female?

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I have another one that seems a lot better actually, but it won't register as uploaded, even though it appears that it has... having trouble with the site tonight, so I'll try later

Tgirl1010
12-05-2011, 11:35 PM
Too blurry cavelle. A better picture would help :)

cavelle
12-05-2011, 11:37 PM
is there a limit to how many MB of pic space you can upload? Do I have to delete an attachment I made earlier to allow for more room?

J!m
12-05-2011, 11:49 PM
is there a limit to how many MB of pic space you can upload? Do I have to delete an attachment I made earlier to allow for more room?

No, your older pics will automatically delete, giving you plenty of space for new pics.

DansDragons
12-06-2011, 12:28 AM
Dan, does the white fur mean female?

it doesn't necessarily mean female, it's mostly the flash that makes it look white. i'm pretty sure those hairs protect the opening of the furrow.

cavelle
12-06-2011, 07:09 AM
Hmmm.

I actually thought the other pic I had was less blurry, but looking at it now it doesn't seem much better
Oh well.
I have no more ventral views of Tweak yet :(

FaaFaa
12-07-2011, 03:06 PM
So here is the first clear shot I could get of my new A. hentzi. The dealer sexed her on the spot and said female. I thought the little dot ment male. I hope that I'm confused and that he didn't lie to me....
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/sjeckert6297/A%20hentzi/100_3715.jpg

DansDragons
12-07-2011, 03:10 PM
looks male...but at least it'll be another 5++ years until he matures.

the dark spot above the white spot is called the epiandrous fusillae, the white spot on the line of where the epigastric furrow would be on a female, is called the gonopore.

FaaFaa
12-07-2011, 03:18 PM
looks male...but at least it'll be another 5++ years until he matures.

the dark spot above the white spot is called the epiandrous fusillae, the white spot on the line of where the epigastric furrow would be on a female, is called the gonopore.

Thanks Dan, that's what I was afraid of. I feel like I have been taken for a ride.... I know who I will not be dealing with anymore...

DansDragons
12-07-2011, 03:21 PM
i hear ya, i've had a few dealers send me females that upon inspection were acually males...it stinks but at least you know who not to deal with anymore.

santac
12-07-2011, 07:44 PM
looks male...but at least it'll be another 5++ years until he matures.

the dark spot above the white spot is called the epiandrous fusillae, the white spot on the line of where the epigastric furrow would be on a female, is called the gonopore.
Thanks for sharing this information Dan. I know about the epiandrous fusillae and that it is used to produce the sperm web but didn't know about the rest. Learning as I go.

cavelle
12-10-2011, 11:14 PM
Here's some shots of Tweak. Hopefully they're good enough to sex! I think Tweak looks male..19998199992000020001

DansDragons
12-11-2011, 01:01 AM
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female! :)

cavelle
12-11-2011, 08:20 AM
Really?! Oh that's great! You should see her now, so beautiful, and with this molt she gained her adult coloring :) but I thought that looked male... What do you see that says female?

Tgirl1010
12-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Yep..girl..congrats :)

***Beth***
12-11-2011, 01:27 PM
Tweek is a girl. The vent area is girly shaped and really open.

JumpSpidersInc
12-11-2011, 06:32 PM
Male or female? :TBounce:

(for a friend)

http://www.tarantulasus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20027&d=1323646089

JSI

DansDragons
12-11-2011, 06:34 PM
female :)

JumpSpidersInc
12-11-2011, 06:37 PM
Dan, my friend thanks you a million times! :)

:Clap:

JSI

DansDragons
12-11-2011, 06:38 PM
anytime!

Suzy
12-11-2011, 07:03 PM
#1
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#2
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#3 :TBlush: Okay... I KNOW he's fat... obese even. He just always says that he's hungry. He? She? I think he.
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***Beth***
12-11-2011, 07:26 PM
Suuzy, looking male to me.

Tgirl1010
12-11-2011, 07:28 PM
Yep, Suzy, looks male to me as well

Suzy
12-11-2011, 07:35 PM
They are 3 different Ts T#1, T#2 and T#3. Are they all male?
I was pretty sure the last one is male, but I am terrible at sexing and so had no idea on the first 2.

I see what you mean though. #1 and #2 look exactly alike, so if one is male, so is the other. :(

DansDragons
12-11-2011, 07:44 PM
1 and 2 are female, 3 may need another molt before we see any male or female parts.

Suzy
12-11-2011, 07:47 PM
1 and 2 are female, 3 may need another molt before we see any male or female parts.
Hope is alive!!! :)

I have duplicates of them, so it's not a huge deal.

Still, I like to know. Dan, how in the world can you tell? I went through this thread and looked and looked. The first two are probably 3", so we should be able to tell by now. But I can't.
#3, my big fat Flick, is probably only 1.5"

Tgirl1010
12-11-2011, 07:53 PM
LOL I should have read, I thought they were the same and I saw the last pic and thought.."hmm that one is the clearest"

***Beth***
12-11-2011, 07:56 PM
Sorry, was looking on the #3 close ones...

1 & 2 look like they could be girls and 3 looks maleish to me.

DansDragons
12-11-2011, 11:06 PM
Hope is alive!!! :)

I have duplicates of them, so it's not a huge deal.

Still, I like to know. Dan, how in the world can you tell? I went through this thread and looked and looked. The first two are probably 3", so we should be able to tell by now. But I can't.
#3, my big fat Flick, is probably only 1.5"

it's hard to explain and almost no one ever gets it, lol.. but i just spent a lot of time looking at males and females and noticed the differences in shape and size of the furrow region. a female's furrow opening looks like lips, whereas a male has no opening, but has a small notch in the middle of the area where the opening is on a female, called the gonopore. he'll also have a dark spot above the notch that will look like a small dot or a vertical oval sort of like the number 0, this is called the epiandrous fusillae

if you look at a T that is 3" or over, and you don't see either of these..chances are it's female, but you can also go by furrow shape as well.

a female would usually have this shape /__\, the horizontal line there is sometimes curved like a slight smile.

a male would look a bit more boxy, kind of like this |_._|, although, like a female, the horizontal line could be somewhat curved for male as well.

Shar Howe
12-13-2011, 12:45 AM
Okay, so I told you guys I got myself a new Pelinobius Muticus a few days ago. S/He's still pretty young, so I wasn't sure if you guys could tell just what was what at this age. The guy that sold it to me said it was about a year and a half or so...and also "guessed" it was a girl. Whatever, I don't mind either way. I posted the pic of it by my fingers so you could judge how small he really is. Thanks!!!
:TBlush:

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DansDragons
12-13-2011, 01:05 AM
thats a boy! you'll have lots of years with him though, very slow growers..

he's probably well over a year old as well.

Shar Howe
12-13-2011, 01:12 AM
Thanks! :)

santac
12-13-2011, 09:52 AM
Shar, Nice looking T and it looks like he eats well. If he was molting I would love to see pictures of him with his new clothes. Males usually have better coloring than females, one of the reasons it doesn't matter to me if they are male or female.

Shar Howe
12-19-2011, 09:42 PM
Okay, I've got my 4 youngsters here and was *hoping* they are all girls, but I'll take what I can get. Or, what I already have. ;)

Brachypelma albopilsum (doesn't really have a name yet). He moulted a few days ago.
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Brachypelma vagans, RedRum. S/he was eating, so I took the opportunity to get a picture, as s/he wants so badly to munch on my fingers and anything else s/he can catch.
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Brachypelma boehemei, "Spaghetti." This one is like the "middle child" of all of my pets...all legs and drama, all of the time!
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And my fat brachypelma smithi, Char-Lee Jr. I wish s/he would hurry up and either moult or poop already!
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FaaFaa
12-19-2011, 11:50 PM
OK these don't count Shar just trying to learn how to do this....lets see if Dan says I'm all wrong....

male, female, female, female (in order of pics)

DansDragons
12-20-2011, 05:03 AM
almost, lol.

male
female
male
male

:)

what size is the boehmei?

J!m
12-20-2011, 08:30 AM
almost, lol.

male
female
male
male

:)

what size is the boehmei?

Dan, you seriously need to start a new thread (different from this one) designed specifically to teach us how to do this. Pictures, diagrams and explanations. If you create one I'll Sticky it.

FaaFaa
12-20-2011, 08:41 AM
almost, lol.

male
female
male
male

:)

what size is the boehmei?

Grrr! I thought I would at least get 75% here! Oh well.


Dan, you seriously need to start a new thread (different from this one) designed specifically to teach us how to do this. Pictures, diagrams and explanations. If you create one I'll Sticky it.

+1 However, I am beginning to wonder if Dan just has extra special powers that the rest of us lack.... :)

J!m
12-20-2011, 10:41 AM
+1 However, I am beginning to wonder if Dan just has extra special powers that the rest of us lack....

You might be right about that.

zumbul91
12-20-2011, 11:47 AM
H.maculata a week after molting?
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thank you Dan :)

Tgirl1010
12-20-2011, 01:18 PM
I say female :)

DansDragons
12-20-2011, 03:30 PM
I say female :)

yep!

Tgirl1010
12-20-2011, 04:04 PM
Woot!! :1st: LOL

santac
12-21-2011, 07:29 PM
I think she is a premolt female but not positive.

DansDragons
12-22-2011, 04:09 PM
looks girly, but post another pic after it molts.

Tgirl1010
12-22-2011, 05:00 PM
Boy or girl...either way I think it's gonna pop! lol

santac
12-22-2011, 06:07 PM
Thanks, I'll try to get a post molt pic soon.

Noble
12-28-2011, 08:04 PM
what do you guys think?
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/tomjayrodnoble/Tarantula/06f01b2b.jpg

DansDragons
12-28-2011, 08:08 PM
Female :)

santac
12-29-2011, 09:22 AM
Post molt P. regalis. Female or male?

Tgirl1010
12-29-2011, 10:07 AM
How big is it?

santac
12-29-2011, 02:55 PM
How big is it?

3 1/2 inches Tgirl

DansDragons
12-31-2011, 11:47 AM
girl :)

Tgirl1010
12-31-2011, 01:14 PM
Yay! I was thinking girl but was scared to say :D

santac
12-31-2011, 04:30 PM
You both have made me soooooo happy. Because of the longevity of females.

advan
01-02-2012, 03:51 PM
I agree the Poecilotheria is a girl but I doubt it is a P.regalis. The ventral cream band should be starting to come in at 3". Congrats!

pro-crastinator
01-02-2012, 05:41 PM
I agree the Poecilotheria is a girl but I doubt it is a P.regalis. The ventral cream band should be starting to come in at 3". Congrats!
Hmmm, I would agree on the species probably not being a regalis. My sling was maybe 1.5" when it passed on and already had a distinct band compared to my other pokies. Next question is, what species is it????

santac
01-02-2012, 07:07 PM
Hmmm, I would agree on the species probably not being a regalis. My sling was maybe 1.5" when it passed on and already had a distinct band compared to my other pokies. Next question is, what species is it????
Let me share two pics of the other side of what was sold to me as a P. regalis sling. Different lighting gives a different color effect. Let me know what you think. She does have bright yellow under her front four legs.

pan60
01-02-2012, 08:12 PM
Shar Howe i have a date for you male Pelinobius Muticus ( previously Citharischius crawshayi ), King Baboon when he is ready.

i can not believe i just found this thread: o~
it's J!m's fault!

pan60
01-02-2012, 08:14 PM
Shar Howe i have a date for you male Pelinobius Muticus ( previously Citharischius crawshayi ), King Baboon when he is ready.
and please DO NOT try to pick your up!!!!

i can not believe i just found this thread: o~
it's J!m's fault!


P.S.
ManlyMan7
i can not tell for sure from that pic, but the GBB looks male, if so let me know i have female ready.

advan
01-02-2012, 08:18 PM
Let me share two pics of the other side of what was sold to me as a P. regalis sling. Different lighting gives a different color effect. Let me know what you think. She does have bright yellow under her front four legs.

My guess would be P. fasciata or P. striata. Wait until she molts and post a good full ventral shot.

santac
01-03-2012, 12:43 PM
My guess would be P. fasciata or P. striata. Wait until she molts and post a good full ventral shot.
Now I'm really confused. I checked out pictures of the P. fasciata and the P. striata and can see where it could be either. She is scheduled to molt the end of this month. I will get a much better ventral shot once she does because I will put her in her permanent enclosure as soon as she hardens up from her molt.

advan
01-03-2012, 01:03 PM
Now I'm really confused. I checked out pictures of the P. fasciata and the P. striata and can see where it could be either. She is scheduled to molt the end of this month. I will get a much better ventral shot once she does because I will put her in her permanent enclosure as soon as she hardens up from her molt.

This really shouldn't be discussed in this thread(Mods feel free to move it). I am leaning towards P. striata. The black band on the femur on the ventral side of leg 1 will either be thick(P. striata) or very thin(P. fasciata). After her next molt refer to this ---------> Click me (http://www.froschlurche.de/Poecilotheria-ventral.jpg). - Chad

DansDragons
01-03-2012, 01:55 PM
Santac, can you get a pic of the undersides of the first 4 legs? It'll be easy to I.D. If I can see the ventral banding

santac
01-03-2012, 06:07 PM
Santac, can you get a pic of the undersides of the first 4 legs? It'll be easy to I.D. If I can see the ventral banding
Thanks Dan. I will post it in the ID thread when I can get a good pic. Tried today but she didn't want to cooperate. I'll PM you when I post the pic. I agree this is not the place to ID. Sorry to have hijacked the thread. Mods, please remove whatever you see fit.

Tgirl1010
01-04-2012, 02:33 PM
I'm almost positive this one is male..but since he was up where I could see I snapped a few pictures. Brachypelma albopilosum about 2.5"

DansDragons
01-04-2012, 02:46 PM
Yep, male.

santac
01-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Male from my point of view

FaaFaa
01-04-2012, 05:17 PM
Its about time I guess 1 right! Im afraid to post my guesses because I am normally wrong!

Tgirl1010
01-04-2012, 05:23 PM
When he molted months back, I saw nothing to indicate female and I figured male. I was holding out hope thinking maybe he was just too small. When I saw him like this on the wall today and grabbed the flashlight for a good look, I immediately said "oh no, he is a he". Oh well, hopefully he will have a couple more years with me. He's a pretty slow grower so far. I keep him at room temp and don't over feed. I think he has only molted twice in 14 months.

santac
01-04-2012, 07:19 PM
When he molted months back, I saw nothing to indicate female and I figured male. I was holding out hope thinking maybe he was just too small. When I saw him like this on the wall today and grabbed the flashlight for a good look, I immediately said "oh no, he is a he". Oh well, hopefully he will have a couple more years with me. He's a pretty slow grower so far. I keep him at room temp and don't over feed. I think he has only molted twice in 14 months.

Under those conditions he will last as long as possible. I keep all my T's like that. The beauty of a male is his coloring will be more spectacular.

ManlyMan7
01-05-2012, 01:03 AM
ManlyMan7
i can not tell for sure from that pic, but the GBB looks male, if so let me know i have female ready.

Nope, she's a confirmed female. Sorry.

Suzy
01-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Just making sure my girl... is a girl! I do not know the seller at all, but he had good reviews.
Adult or sub-adult 5.5" N. tripepii

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Suzy
01-05-2012, 08:44 PM
:TMad: Looking male to me-

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santac
01-05-2012, 08:46 PM
I see male Suzy

Suzy
01-05-2012, 08:46 PM
I just sent the seller an email with pics

DansDragons
01-05-2012, 08:48 PM
scratch that, i can see one of the palps in a couple of the pics.

it's a girl :)

JumpSpidersInc
01-05-2012, 08:58 PM
You know, I thought this was a male, too... but something kept me from posting it...

it was the palp Dan is referring to.

Wow, that was a neat lesson learned! ;)

Congrats, Suzy!!!

Dan, thanks for mentioning the palp. It was driving me nuts!

Suzy
01-05-2012, 09:10 PM
How can you tell from the palps? Here is another pic-

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Suzy
01-05-2012, 09:11 PM
I'm not convinced- it looks boy... :TBlush:
...and does the picture above show the palps? I am confused. Would a 5.5" be mature? These Ts are supposed to get really big.
.... I am trying very hard to relax, stay calm, not get upset, and listen to you guys.... I only know how to sex by molt..

...what is that word Will Smith and his partner used to meditate on Bad Boys II.... I NEED it! All I can think of is ... mufasa... that's LION KING. :TBlush:

DansDragons
01-05-2012, 09:42 PM
i thought it seemed a little washed out and a bit lanky, like a MM. it's certainly not rare to see a 5.5"-6" MM vulpinus.

but i honestly don't see anything that would make me say male. no visable epiandrous fusillae, no visable gonopore. furrow shape is also wrong for a male.

Suzy
01-05-2012, 09:50 PM
Okay... sigh.... :)

***Beth***
01-06-2012, 06:34 AM
My gut before reading replies was female, furrow shape etc.

Suzy
01-06-2012, 08:17 AM
The breeder sent me a pic of her molt last night after I went to bed. There were no mistakes - girl. :)
She, and maybe this species(?) are very narrow through the girley area - meaning top book lung area. You guys were right. :) :) :)
I'll post molt pic tonight.
:gtg:

pan60
01-06-2012, 08:48 AM
Suzy, i am going to have to start getting some of these from you!
looks like a beauties to me.
i do not see anything to tell me one way or another, but with my eye's i only rely on molts.

P.S. if you get a male when you done with him send him this way.
few have had luck breading these, ( i only know of one ).
;)

Suzy
01-06-2012, 09:03 AM
Suzy, i am going to have to start getting some of these from you!
looks like a beauties to me.
i do not see anything to tell me one way or another, but with my eye's i only rely on molts.

P.S. if you get a male when you done with him send him this way.
few have had luck breading these, ( i only know of one ).
;)

Pan, if I buy a male, I'll just have him shipped directly to you for a 50/50. :)

santac
01-06-2012, 09:49 AM
It would be great if he replaces it with a female or gives you a super discount. As you said you checked his feedback and it was good so he should be responsible and honest and compensate you for his mistake.

DansDragons
01-06-2012, 11:45 AM
The breeder sent me a pic of her molt last night after I went to bed. There were no mistakes - girl. :)
She, and maybe this species(?) are very narrow through the girley area - meaning top book lung area. You guys were right. :) :) :)
I'll post molt pic tonight.
:gtg:

;)

JumpSpidersInc
01-06-2012, 11:46 AM
;)

Suzy
01-06-2012, 12:31 PM
The breeder said he has a stockpile of females and can't find a male. That seems to be very common among tripepii owners. Males are in short supply!
Here's her molt-
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JumpSpidersInc
01-06-2012, 12:38 PM
Suzy, that is so blindingly female, that it hurts to look at it! LOL!

Dan, am I correct in assuming it is a sub-adult female, judging by the clearish coloring?

Congrats, Suzy!!!! :TBounce:

santac
01-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Glad I was wrong. I learned from the experience that Dan shows. Congrats Suzy.

pan60
01-07-2012, 08:35 AM
Suzy, get a pick of the one you got from me as i am not sure of the sex.

( for those reading this i don;t sex a lot of T's i keep for myself as i really do not care if they are male or female i need both and i told Suzy i was not 100% sure as to the sex. just do not want people to get the impression i would misrepresent a T a sell ).


then we can look at a molt fist chance ( which i suspect is not to far off.
i think it is female but that is not based on a molt and i ever bat a 100% just looking.

santac
01-07-2012, 08:57 AM
Suzy, get a pick of the one you got from me as i am not sure of the sex.

( for those reading this i don;t sex a lot of T's i keep for myself as i really do not care if they are male or female i need both and i told Suzy i was not 100% sure as to the sex. just do not want people to get the impression i would misrepresent a T a sell ).



then we can look at a molt fist chance ( which i suspect is not to far off.
i think it is female but that is not based on a molt and i ever bat a 100% just looking.

Pan I have got to say this. I don't know you personally so this is unbiased. With the exceptional treatment you gave our friend Suzy and your super reputation on this site for being honest and an excellent seller of healty T's, I doubt anyone here would ever think of you in a negative way. More people like you are needed in this hobby.

Suzy
01-07-2012, 12:07 PM
Okay, I'd love to get some more of her. She's been hiding under her big flower, but I'll coax her out.
You sold her to me as unsexed. As far as I remember, you didn't even mention you thought female until I already had her. The reason I was about to be upset if tripepii #2 was male is because she is so big. Sending ME a large male would be such a waste! From what I've read these are very difficult to breed and there are several breeders out there looking for a male.
If the juvie I got from you turns out yo be male I will be sad, but I will have plenty of time to enjoy him and will send him right back to you hoping for some babies. :)

pan60
01-08-2012, 11:04 AM
the one you got from me may be hiding for a molt,it is coming up due so you may want to let her just stay hid for now.
keep us posted Suzy!


thanks for you kind work santac!

when i was younger i use to have a saying that tried my vest to live by and find it accurate.

RESPECT NEGATES THE NEED FOR LAW.

thanks
pan

Suzy
01-08-2012, 11:59 AM
Okay, here they are.. finally! Just remember Pan, you sold this spider to me as unsexed. If it's a male, I can probably name my price with some breeders... :)
According to BrettG, who I got my older tripepii from, this species is very difficult to sex ventrally. But, there is definitely a molt coming on so I'm not sweatin' it either way.

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Suzy
01-08-2012, 12:01 PM
more- same T
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Suzy
01-08-2012, 12:05 PM
I flipped a few. This upside down stuff is making me crazy... :)
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Tgirl1010
01-08-2012, 01:56 PM
Looks male to me.

***Beth***
01-08-2012, 02:01 PM
Looks male to me too.

DansDragons
01-08-2012, 02:22 PM
definitely male, no doubt

Suzy
01-08-2012, 02:31 PM
Then he is one of the rarest CB tarantulas in the US hobby right now. :)

...thinking of a boy name!

(edit) He is Pan... my female is Tink. :)

(and already bragging on 'another forum' about it... :TDevlish: )

Formerphobe
01-08-2012, 10:14 PM
The B. emilias always shred their molts before I can get to them. And my ventral sexing skills are sadly lacking...
B. emilia "Honshu"
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/Gone2Dogs4/06_Jan_12041.jpg
B. emilia "Telgar"
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/Gone2Dogs4/06_Jan_12050.jpg
B. emilia "Igen"
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/Gone2Dogs4/08_Jan_12034.jpg
A. seemanni
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/Gone2Dogs4/08_Jan_12036.jpg
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu258/Gone2Dogs4/08_Jan_12030.jpg

pan60
01-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Suzy double check the moult. i just had one molt out a couple days ago and checked the molt last night, it is confirmed female, if you want we can trade.
or if that is a male for sure and you want to do a lone, let me know we could try to get him to a few females.

santac
01-17-2012, 03:53 PM
What do I have here? I finally got this 2 1/2 inch G. rosea where I could take a pic. I'm hoping female because my other G. rosea I believe to be male. I'm not much of a photographer so sorry if not clear.

DansDragons
01-17-2012, 03:59 PM
girl :)

ManlyMan7
01-17-2012, 04:13 PM
Yup, I was gonna say :TGirl:

santac
01-17-2012, 07:00 PM
Thank you both. Now at last I can give her a name. You have made my day.

santac
01-18-2012, 10:02 AM
Here is a ventral pic of my one and only Brachypelma emilia. Bought it at 1 1/2 in and now is 3 inches
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Also a ventral pic of my second Brachypeelma boehmei. Bought it at 1 inch and now is 2 inches
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I hope they are clear enough. Not the best camera for micro. I'm very interested in the sex because I would like to name them.

ManlyMan7
01-20-2012, 06:04 PM
Personally, I am finding that I don't get this as I thought I did. so I really don't know on this one. The furrow seems to be like a female, but is that "dot" in the middle indicative of a male?

Hopefully, someone else will chime in.

JumpSpidersInc
01-20-2012, 06:09 PM
I think I see a male... keyword "think", as I am still learning too. If it is indeed female, I would like some pointers in ID'ing it as female. I've been pretty good at ventral sexing so far, but one can always call it wrong.

>edit< ... the more I look the more.... hmmm... :TConfused:

advan
01-21-2012, 12:16 PM
Male B. emilia and I would guess female on the B. boehmei.

pan60
01-21-2012, 06:12 PM
looks very male to me?

Tgirl1010
01-31-2012, 07:15 PM
A geniculata 2 inches..any ideas?

touchthesky
02-07-2012, 06:30 PM
I think Ive got a lady. Rare for her to come up on the side like this soo took a photo:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416910_10151247749160109_887575108_22662934_108636 5338_n.jpg

firfly
02-07-2012, 06:33 PM
I think Ive got a lady. Rare for her to come up on the side like this soo took a photo:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416910_10151247749160109_887575108_22662934_108636 5338_n.jpg

I think you are correct...LOL Congrats!!

santac
02-11-2012, 01:49 PM
I believe this Brachypelma sabulosum is an adult female. I have a MM that just molted. Love to try to breed.
24679

Scoolman
02-11-2012, 09:04 PM
I think Ive got a lady. Rare for her to come up on the side like this soo took a photo:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416910_10151247749160109_887575108_22662934_108636 5338_n.jpg

100% female

Scoolman
02-11-2012, 09:04 PM
I believe this Brachypelma sabulosum is an adult female. I have a MM that just molted. Love to try to breed.
24679

Female

santac
02-14-2012, 06:06 PM
These are two pics of my 2 to 2 1/2 inch B. albiceps. Would love to know the sex. I think it is a female because I don't see the dark spot males have but I'm not very good at ventral sexing.

Tgirl1010
02-14-2012, 06:59 PM
B albiceps looks female to me.

Suzy
02-15-2012, 11:28 PM
C. schiodtei- Malaysian Earth Tiger- 3.5"
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advan
02-15-2012, 11:47 PM
Suzy that's a boy.

Suzy
02-15-2012, 11:56 PM
Suzy that's a boy.

I was right! (for once...:TBlush:)
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pan60
02-16-2012, 05:55 PM
looks male to me as well.

Suzy
02-16-2012, 06:03 PM
Maybe I'll get some pretty babies from him. :)

santac
02-21-2012, 10:02 AM
Pic taken through glass and not too clear. Hope it is good enough for those who can ventral sex. This is one of my two unsexed B. smithi.

Tgirl1010
02-29-2012, 08:39 PM
B emilia 2.5" or so.

Scoolman
02-29-2012, 11:41 PM
santac B smithi male
Tgirl B emilia female

firfly
03-01-2012, 09:54 AM
Pic taken through glass and not too clear. Hope it is good enough for those who can ventral sex. This is one of my two unsexed B. smithi.
Really need to see a little lower talking mm Santac however from what I can see I would say male, although its not 100%.
Tgirl: I venture female on this one.

pan60
03-01-2012, 12:54 PM
i can see good enough to say from the pics.
but the B emilia dose look female-ish from what i can see.

santac
03-01-2012, 06:30 PM
I will try to get a better picture of the one above but meanwhile please check these two out and see what you think.

firfly
03-01-2012, 06:48 PM
I will try to get a better picture of the one above but meanwhile please check these two out and see what you think.

Female on the first although a better pic would be needed for confirmation, the second one I cant see anything at all sorry santac.

Tgirl1010
03-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Santac, the first one looks female but I'm not positive on that because the picture is kinda weird. The second one looks male to me.

santac
03-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Sorry both pictures are so bad. Both pictures are of the same T.