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    Thread: Getting the right substrate

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      Getting the right substrate

      So I've been using coconut fiber but I want to try something different or mix something with the coco.
      I was on another place on the internet and they said vermiculite is bad for T's which I thought was interesting because I know I've seen people suggest it before, what do you know about this? They also said not to use peat moss??
      I was suggested to use red clay, but not hard clay for modeling of course. And to mix the red clay with regular potting soil (what I assume to mean without harzardous chemicals and fertilizer). And that that would be good for burrowing.

      So when we talk about using substrate in our enclosures the first important thing is what species of taratula is it, I know this. I have 1 arboreal and 2 terrestrial. 1 Avicularia Versicolor, 1 Brachypelma Albopilosum, and 1 that I've forgot the ID of it was a recent trade with a local guy, I think it was like a "mexican red knee" or "arizona red knee" or something like that. My versicolor doesn't care what substrate is in her tank I dont think or she doesnt care about the coco, so I'll be using just a little bit of whatever I use for the other two. My 1st terrestrial (albopilosum) has shown to love to dig in the past but hasnt in a long time so this is mainly for inspired by her to see if it will encourage her to dig again, for now she prefers to live in one of two coffee mugs I've played in there. It appears she likes to sleep in one and poop in the other. ??? . The 2nd terrestrial ("red knee" I've named Bridget after the Irish goddess) has indicated it doesn't care to dig for the sake of digging but I put a large piece of corkwood in the tank laying down on the substrate and she loves to dig a tunnel under it and then bury the exit and "hibernate" for long periods of time occasionally, sometimes worrying me on those long long holidays and I unbury her and shes fine.

      I'm interested in knowing where I might get good substrate online? and of course what your opinions are of what I should get. I'm not even certain what brand I should choose.
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      http://www.petmountain.com/product/o...substrate.html

      http://www.drsfostersmith.com/?t=1&r...9UAaAimv8P8HAQ

      in the chatroom of this site and I've been looking at them


      Also I'm honestly really worried about something. I had diatomaceous earth in the house recently and I'm really worried it may have contaminated some of the tanks, I did not see any powder in them, and I had the tanks covered just in case, but I'm an idiot and should have moved the tanks out of the house in the first place, I may just be worrying over nothing but I'm still worried. Do any of you know of any symptoms T's might exhibit if they were contaminated with this horrid stuff? We had the earth in the house because a person in the household brought bedbugs into the house.

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      On a personal note I have been using only coco coir and have never had any problems. I hear people mixing it with peat, top soil (pesticide free), sand, clay and I'm sure I'm missing a few! Like you said it really depends on the T...they might acclimate faster to a certain substrate. I'm sure you know your T's better than anyone and would notice if they don't care for a certain sub. Hope this helps!
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      I use either straight EE (coco coir) or a 50/50 mix of EE and vermiculite for most of my enclosures. I'll use bone dry EE for my arid species and the 50/50 mix for my humidity lovers. ie...Lp's, genic's, pamphos, psalms, poeci's etc...
      The only T's that get different sub are my Haplopelma...I give them clean, pesticide-free top soil and peat mix. I find it holds moisture well, doesn't collapse in their labyrinth of tunnels and doesn't get moldy as fast as straight EE.
      For tiny slings (2nd and 3rd instar) I like straight vermiculite as it stays moist, doesn't mold and makes it easier to find the sling with it's lighter color.
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      I agree on the Eco-Earth (Coconut Fiber). I've always used it with every sort of T and have never had any problems.
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      I use peat or coco and a mix if thats what I have.
      I moved to the peat mostly because I can get it so cheap compared to the coco fiber.
      The coco fiber from my prospective is cleaner the peat is dusty and get air born at times.


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