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    Thread: IT'S FINALLY HERE! Revision to Aphonopelma genus

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      IT'S FINALLY HERE! Revision to Aphonopelma genus

      http://zookeys.pensoft.net/articles.php?id=6264

      I've been waiting years for this. Here's the nutshell version:

      Of the 55 nominal species of Aphonopelma reported from the United States prior to the present contribution, we only consider 15 of them valid (i.e., we propose 33 new synonymies and consider 7 species nomina dubia). Despite this significant reduction in the number of valid species, we also recognize 14 novel species (described herein), bringing the total diversity of Aphonopelma in the United States to 29 species. It is important to point out that geographic distribution is crucial to understanding Aphonopelma diversity within the United States.

      Based on our analyses, we now recognize only 29 distinct species in the United States. We propose 33 new synonymies:
      A. apacheum, A. minchi, A. rothi, A. schmidti, A. stahnkei = A. chalcodes;
      A. arnoldi = A. armada; A. behlei, A. vogelae = A. marxi; A. breenei = A. anax;
      A. chambersi, A. clarum, A. cryptethum, A. sandersoni, A. sullivani = A. eutylenum;
      A. clarki, A. coloradanum, A. echinum, A. gurleyi, A. harlingenum, A. odelli, A. waconum, A. wichitanum = A. hentzi;
      A. heterops = A. moderatum;
      A. jungi, A. punzoi = A. vorhiesi;
      A. brunnius, A. chamberlini, A. iviei, A. lithodomum, A. smithi, A. zionis = A. iodius;
      A. phanum, A. reversum = A. steindachneri,

      14 new species:
      A. atomicum sp. n., A. catalina sp. n., A. chiricahua sp. n., A. icenoglei sp. n., A. johnnycashi sp. n., A. madera sp. n., A. mareki sp. n., A. moellendorfi sp. n., A. parvum sp. n., A. peloncillo sp. n., A. prenticei sp. n., A. saguaro sp. n., A. superstitionense sp. n., and A. xwalxwal sp. n.)

      and seven nomina dubia: A. baergi, A. cratium, A. hollyi, A. mordax, A. radinum, A. rusticum, A. texense.

      Our proposed species tree based on Anchored Enrichment data delimits five major lineages: a monotypic group confined to California, a western group, an eastern group, a group primarily distributed in high-elevation areas, and a group that comprises several miniaturized species.

      Now there's a lot of Aphonopelma species that people have, that are called suchandsuch, but are not in the above list. For example, the sp. "Flagstaff Orange." This unfortunately does not help those of us who own tarantulas who aren't on the above list. We still have no clue what species we actually have unless we possess the knowledge to examine our own specimens, compare to the data in this revision, and come to an evidence-based conclusion.
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      Thank you for posting this, Bugmom! I was about to.

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      I hae to change my A behlei label

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      going to have to read. I've gotten quite tired of people renaming things, because they can. This feeling includes all sorts of thing, not just T's.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Scoolman View Post
      I hae to change my A behlei label
      I have at least two that will need to be relabeled. But I don't even know what to relabel them as yet.

      going to have to read. I've gotten quite tired of people renaming things, because they can. This feeling includes all sorts of thing, not just T's.
      Taxonomic revisions don't happen just because someone says so, they are done because the biological, scientific evidence warrants it. The Aphonopelma genus was so messed up that no one knew what species they had because no one had done the research. There was no scientific data to show proof that species this or species that was separate from existing, known species.

      Aphonopelmas in the hobby have long been named "Aphonpelma sp. whatever the seller is calling it" based on, usually, the location of the specimen, or so and so said it was this so it's being sold as that, and so on. A lot of the Aphonopelmas that people in the hobby have are mislabeled and frankly the likelihood of us owning hybrid species is real, and this taxonomic revision will help people hopefully know what exactly they have or determine that they have a hybrid, and we can avoid further hybridizing or mislabeling.

      I strongly urge keepers to not breed any Aphonopelmas (or any other tarantula) unless they are positive they know the species.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bugmom View Post
      I strongly urge keepers to not breed any Aphonopelmas (or any other tarantula) unless they are positive they know the species.
      This is why I didn't offer up my MM A. moderatum for breeding. Even tho he came from a VERY reliable source, who in turn also received from a reliable source... I wasn't 100% POSITIVE that he IS a moderatum. *I* think he is BUT... all the confusion with the Aphonopelma genus made me hang onto him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bugmom View Post
      I have at least two that will need to be relabeled. But I don't even know what to relabel them as yet.



      Taxonomic revisions don't happen just because someone says so, they are done because the biological, scientific evidence warrants it. The Aphonopelma genus was so messed up that no one knew what species they had because no one had done the research. There was no scientific data to show proof that species this or species that was separate from existing, known species.

      Aphonopelmas in the hobby have long been named "Aphonpelma sp. whatever the seller is calling it" based on, usually, the location of the specimen, or so and so said it was this so it's being sold as that, and so on. A lot of the Aphonopelmas that people in the hobby have are mislabeled and frankly the likelihood of us owning hybrid species is real, and this taxonomic revision will help people hopefully know what exactly they have or determine that they have a hybrid, and we can avoid further hybridizing or mislabeling.

      I strongly urge keepers to not breed any Aphonopelmas (or any other tarantula) unless they are positive they know the species.
      True. But, scientific papers and submissions often get shot down or refused for numerous reasons. As, papers are one of the biggest ways for scientists to advance themselves they should not be taken as gospel. So I want to read it.

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      This feels like when they release patch notes for Smash Bros =P
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      Who wouldn't want a species named johnnycashi?!

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      I always find this research and shifting of things very interesting. I do wish I could understand it all a little better though!
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